More From SJ's Words at HA

@163 Puddbud

I have never said that science is incompatible withe belief in "God." Science is incompatible, however, with some ideas abut what God may be.

FWIW, Francis Collins, the head of the Genome Project is R. Catholic and devout at that! Mendel, of course, was a monk. I know a number of Nobelists who are believers. I have another friend who is a devout Mahayanna Buddhist.

If you tak to most devot scientists, they will tell you that their beliefs are compatible with science. Most who have thought about it would side with Spinoza and Maimonides, in case you are up to doing some reading.

Spinoza and Maimonides, great teachers, taught that revelation is to be believed as a whole. The "Bible" is one form of data. So is the human genome. When they agree, there is no reason not to include the bible, when they disagree obviously the stronger form of revelation is science because science can be reproduced. So Maiminides and Spinoza both rejected the fundamentalist interpretation of the story of creation .

Do yuo have problem with this? Let me suggest YOU have a problem. You claim to beleive in something called the Bible. I assume you mean one of the flavors of the Christian Bible? But why would you consider that book to be divinely revealed?

I have read the Christian Bible and AFIK Jashka (closer to Jesus' true name than Jesus or Joshua BTW) never says ...

"Go forth and record these worlds as holy script! " That is true even for his own words .. never mind all the fantasies in your book of revelations or the books of our history that you have somehow decided are God''s word. BTW, FWIW the book of Daniel in your Bible is NOT in the Jewish canon and even if it were, the material after Deuteronomy is NOT considered revelation in Judaism since nowhere does it say , "I am God and I certify that the love poem attributes to a lustfilled David is holy>" (though we might both agree the song of songs is lovely and erotic!

So, let me turn the shoes ...

On what authority do YOU claim that the "Bible" is the word of God?